Share count
8Mpeak FY2024
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BLIV, BeLive Holdings Ordinary Share
A software business, earning high margins on code once it is written.
The business
What it sells, where the money comes from, the kind of company it is.
Revenue · FY2024
S$2M
−40.2% YoY
Vital signs · TTM
The business in brief
read the 10-K →What this business is and what moves its needle, from its own SEC filings.
- Situation
- Unprofitable. No meaningful revenue yet; the record is the cash on hand against the burn.
- What moves the needle
- Retention and the cost of growth. What decides it: whether customers expand rather than churn, how much of revenue is spent winning the next one, and whether software's gross margin holds as it scales. On its own account, the filing leans hardest on customer concentration, set against the numbers in what the filing emphasizes, below.
Every line is arithmetic on the company's filings, shown in full in the sections below.
The record
Ten years of arithmetic, read across the cycle.
The record, 2022–2024
realized figures from each filing · older years to the left| 2022’22 | 2023’23 | 2024’24 | TTMTTMDec 2024 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Income statement | ||||
| S$4M | S$3M | S$2M | S$2M | RevenueRevenue |
| 62% | 55% | 52% | 52% | Gross marginGross mgn |
| S$2M | — | — | (S$5M) | Operating incomeOp. inc. |
| 39.2% | — | — | −297.3% | Operating marginOp. mgn |
| S$2M | (S$2M) | (S$6M) | (S$6M) | Net incomeNet inc. |
| Cash flow & returns | ||||
| (S$3M) | S$60K | (S$1M) | (S$1M) | Operating cash flowOp. cash |
| S$123K | S$208K | S$56K | S$56K | DepreciationDeprec. |
| (S$5M) | S$2M | S$4M | S$4M | Working capital & otherWC & other |
| S$113K | S$2K | — | S$2K | CapexCapex |
| 2.7% | 0.1% | — | 0.1% | Capex / revenueCapex/rev |
| (S$3M) | S$58K | — | (S$1M) | Owner earningsOwner earn. |
| −71.6% | 1.9% | — | −57.8% | Owner earnings marginOE mgn |
| (S$3M) | S$58K | — | (S$1M) | Free cash flowFCF |
| −71.6% | 1.9% | — | −57.8% | Free cash flow marginFCF mgn |
| 57% | -188% | — | — | Return on equityROE |
| 57% | −188% | — | — | Retained to equityRetained/eq |
| Balance sheet | ||||
| S$217K | S$198K | S$66K | S$66K | Cash & investmentsCash+inv |
| — | S$438K | S$127K | S$127K | ReceivablesReceiv. |
| — | S$447K | S$626K | S$626K | Accounts payablePayables |
| — | (S$9K) | (S$499K) | (S$499K) | Operating working capitalOper. WC |
| — | S$648K | S$204K | S$204K | Current assetsCur. assets |
| — | S$488K | S$970K | S$970K | Current liabilitiesCur. liab. |
| — | 1.3× | 0.2× | 0.2× | Current ratioCurr. ratio |
| — | S$2M | S$834K | S$834K | Total assetsAssets |
| (S$217K) | (S$198K) | (S$66K) | (S$66K) | Net debt / (cash)Net debt |
| 711.4× | — | — | -1745.8× | Interest coverageInt. cov. |
| S$3M | S$1M | (S$136K) | (S$136K) | Shareholders’ equityEquity |
| Per share | ||||
| 6.9M | 6.6M | 8.0M | 8.0M | Shares out (diluted)Shares |
| S$0.61 | S$0.46 | S$0.23 | S$0.23 | Revenue / shareRev/sh |
| S$0.24 | S$-0.31 | S$-0.69 | S$-0.69 | EPS (diluted)EPS |
| S$-0.43 | S$0.01 | — | S$-0.13 | Owner earnings / shareOE/sh |
| S$-0.43 | S$0.01 | — | S$-0.13 | Free cash flow / shareFCF/sh |
| S$0.02 | S$0.00 | — | S$0.00 | Cap. spending / shareCapex/sh |
| S$0.42 | S$0.17 | S$-0.02 | S$-0.02 | Book value / shareBVPS |
Share counts before 2023 are restated ×8 for a stock split, so per-share figures sit on one basis.
The record, charted
FY2022–2024Each measure over its full record; the current point and the worst year marked. Share counts on the current split basis.
Gross margin
52%low FY2024
Net income is the accountant's number; owner earnings is the cash an owner could take out. The walk between them, off the cash-flow statement, and whether the gap is widening or holding.
In fiscal 2023 the business turned a S$2M loss into S$58K of owner earnings: more cash than the profit line showed, after the non-cash charges and the capital it put back in.
| FY2023 | FY2022 | |
|---|---|---|
| Reported net income | (S$2M) | S$2M |
| Depreciation & amortizationnon-cash charge added back | +S$208K | +S$123K |
| Working capital & othertiming of cash in and out, other non-cash items | +S$2M | −S$5M |
| Cash from operations | S$60K | (S$3M) |
| Capital expenditurecash put back in to keep running and to grow | −S$2K | −S$113K |
| Owner earnings | S$58K | (S$3M) |
| Owner-earnings marginowner earnings ÷ revenue | 2% | -72% |
Owner earnings is the cash an owner could pull out without starving the business: operating cash less the capital it must spend to hold its position .
Maintenance capex is estimated as depreciation where a growing business invests above it; free cash flow is the figure the scorecard's free-cash margin reads.
Quality & stewardship
Returns, the balance sheet, capital allocation, and pay.
Owner’s Scorecard
FY2024 20-F · source on SEC EDGAR →
Will it survive?
- Can it pay its interest? -1745.8×Does not cover its interestOperating income (S$5M) ÷ interest expense S$3K
What this means
A full year of operating profit didn't cover the interest bill. This is the zombie zone: the business depends on refinancing, asset sales, or forbearance to service its debt.
- Net cash, debt-freeCash S$66K − debt S$0
What this means
Cash and short-term investments exceed every dollar of debt by S$66K, on net the company owes nothing, and can act from strength when others can't. Net debt is the leverage figure that matters: the cash is already set against the debt. Strategic or illiquid investments aren't counted here.
- Negative, funded by othersDSO 25 + DIO 0 − DPO 258 days
What this means
Days cash is tied up between paying suppliers and collecting from customers. A negative cycle is a quiet moat: suppliers and customers fund the operation (Buffett's “float”), the company grows on other people's money. (Little or no inventory, a services / asset-light model, so the inventory leg is ~0.)
Is it a good business?
- Not enough dataIndustry peers: median -124%
What this means
The filing data didn't include the inputs for this check.
- Consumes cashOwner earnings (S$1M) = operating cash (S$1M) − maintenance capex S$2KIndustry peers: median -500%
What this means
What an owner could take out without starving the business: operating cash less the maintenance capital it must spend to hold its position — Buffett's owner earnings. That's -58% of revenue this year.
- Are earnings backed by cash? (S$1M)Loss, and burning cashNet income (S$6M) · cash from operations (S$1M)
What this means
The company reported a net loss, so a conversion ratio isn't meaningful. What matters then is whether operations still threw off cash, here, they did not.
How is the cash used?
- Not enough data
What this means
The filing data didn't include the inputs for this check.
- Investing or harvesting? 0.04×HarvestingCapex S$2K ÷ depreciation S$56K
What this means
Descriptive, not a grade. Above ~1× means investing faster than assets wear out (growth, or, sustained for years, today's earnings carrying less depreciation than tomorrow's will). Below means spending less than it's wearing out (efficiency, or a melting asset base). The ratio won't tell you which; the filings will.
Graham’s defensive tests · 0 of 1 met
Graham’s numerical criteria for the defensive investor (The Intelligent Investor, ch. 14), run on the filings. A floor of safety, not a buy signal; many fine modern businesses fail his strictest liquidity rules by design.
- Adequate size —Revenue ≥ $2B (a dollar floor) · S$2M
What this means
Big enough to weather a storm. Graham's floor is a dollar figure — about $2B of revenue as a conservative modern stand-in. This company reports in its home currency and we carry no exchange rate, so we show the figure and leave the size bar for you to apply rather than convert it with a number we don't have.
- Strong liquidity MissCurrent ratio ≥ 2× · 0.21×
What this means
Current assets at least twice current liabilities, near-term bills covered without touching the business. Strict by design: many cash-rich modern firms run leaner and miss it, holding their cushion in longer-dated securities.
- Moderate price —P/E ≤ 15 and P/E × P/B ≤ 22.5 · decided by the price
What this means
Graham's valuation gate, the wall he kept between a sound business and a sound investment. Three-year average earnings are S$-0.18/share (latest year S$-0.51), the averaged base the calculator's gate runs on, and book value is S$-0.01/share. Enter a price in “What the price implies” just below for the P/E, P/B, and whether it clears. But this is the rule Buffett outgrew: there's no hard P/E law, and a wonderful business can deserve a far richer multiple if the thesis holds, treat it as the bargain-hunter's floor, not a verdict on the price.
Does AI threaten the moat?
Elevated contestabilityThe product is software or information, the very thing capable AI now produces more cheaply, so the moat is more contestable than the record alone implies.
In its own filing Framed as a capability
Despite the structural exposure, the filing positions AI as something it uses, not a threat to its product.
“INFORMATION ON THE COMPANY Recent Developments Establishment of BeLive New Media Ltd and BeLive AI Studios Pte.”
AI has collapsed the cost of building a capable substitute for the very thing this business sells. When a credible alternative can be assembled for a fraction of the incumbent's price, it is pricing power that erodes first, not revenue tomorrow. The live question is whether the moat survives that, not whether it held in the past. Whether that question is answerable at all is yours to decide, against your own circle of competence.
Read from the filing's own risk factors, paired with the industry's structure under its SIC code; the durability is read above, the price below.
All figures as filed; the source filing is linked above.
Current Position
as of fiscal year-end, Dec 31, 2024Can the business pay what it owes this year, off the freshest balance sheet: the quality of the assets, the debt actually coming due, and what a low ratio means here.
Current assetsS$204K
- Cash & short-term investmentsS$66K
- ReceivablesS$127K
Current liabilitiesS$970K
- Accounts payableS$626K
- Other current liabilitiesS$344K
Current ratio0.21×all current assets ÷ what's due · Graham looked for 2×
Quick ratio0.21×stricter: inventory excluded
Cash ratio0.07×strictest: cash alone against what's due
Working capital(S$766K)the cushion left after near-term bills
Cash runway0.1 yrsthe business is consuming cash; this is how long the cash on hand lasts at that rate
Deeper floors
Tangible book value(S$760K)equity stripped of goodwill & intangibles
Net current asset value(S$766K)Graham's net-net: current assets less all liabilities
Debt incl. operating leasesS$7KS$7K of it operating leases
From the company's latest filing.
Peers, Software
The same industry, side by side on owner economics. Each figure is a through-cycle median, so a peak or trough year can’t distort it; the group median at the foot is the line to read each against.
| Company | Revenue | Gross margin | Op. margin | ROIC | Owner earn. margin |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| GEGGLGreat Elm Group, Inc. | $16M | 93% | -46.5% | -12% | -3% |
| NXTTNext Technology Holding Inc. | $12M | 59% | -24.0% | -1% | -29% |
| PDYNPalladyne AI Corp. | $5M | 30% | -916.4% | -333% | -500% |
| DJTTrump Media & Technology Group Corp. | $4M | 55% | -3360.9% | -18% | -943% |
| ODYSOdysight.ai Inc. | $3M | 29% | -593.1% | -442% | -584% |
| PHUNPhunware Inc. | $3M | 51% | -175.0% | -124% | -161% |
| BLIVBeLive Holdings Ordinary Share | S$2M | 55% | -297.3% | — | -58% |
| MOVECorvex Inc. | $433K | — | -3580.4% | -243% | -2604% |
| Group median | — | 55% | -445.2% | — | -330% |
The price
What a price has to assume.
What the price implies
reverse-DCFEnter the US price, in dollars: the NYSE/Nasdaq quote you hold. BeLive Holdings Ordinary Share's US listing is the ordinary share itself; figures in this tool are translated at SGD 1 = $0.775 (2026-07-17, reference rate); the dollar quote then reconciles exactly. The record tables elsewhere on this page remain as filed, in SGD.
BeLive Holdings Ordinary Share is profitable, but owner earnings are negative this year because capital spending currently outruns operating cash, a build-out, so the owner-earnings reverse-DCF has no positive base to grow. We read the price from both ends instead: type a price to see the steady-state profitability it demands, then set the mature margin you would believe and weigh the two against each other. Nothing leaves your browser unless you enter it in your notebook.
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The assumptions
Enter a price to run it.
Owner earnings it must reach—
Margin the price demands—
Owner-earnings margin today−58%
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Two reads of one future. From your price: the owner earnings the company must reach, valued at a mature multiple and discounted back at your rate, expressed as the margin it implies on revenue grown at your rate. From your belief: the mature margin you would credit, set on the dial above. When the margin the price demands runs above the one you would believe, you are paying for a future taken on faith. For a deep cyclical at a trough, normalized through-cycle earnings are the better lens; this mode is for the genuinely unprofitable, and for the profitable business whose capital spending currently outruns its cash.
Cite: Owner Scorecard, "BeLive Holdings Ordinary Share (BLIV), the owner's record," https://ownerscorecard.com/c/BLIV, data as of 2026-07-09.
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